Researchers have shown that 390 times more people die on the roads in developed countries as die from international terrorism. In the US, this translates into the equivalent of a 9/11 every month, and on a global scale, every nine days. And yet, the money and attention of law- and policy-makers is focused on the much smaller killer.
OTOH, looking at the policies US lawmakers have pursued against terrorism, maybe that's a good thing...
More people die in the home that on the roads, so maybe bombing step ladder and deep fat fryer makers would also be a scheme.
ReplyDeleteWhat a peculiar and strange connection to make, between deliberate mass murder, and people dying in crashes on the road. This argument has as much validity as saying, when asked what the time is, that cars drive on the left side of the road.
ReplyDeleteVery peculiar you are.
Both the "war on terror" and various government attempts to reduce the road toll (by speed limits, safety standards, and enforcement) are predicated on the idea that it is the government's duty to protect the lives of its citizens. What's peculiar is that the US government in particular is spending so much money protecting so few lives.
ReplyDeleteTo "prevent another 9/11", the US government is spending well over a hundred billion dollars a year on tracking, detaining and torturing suspected terrorists, as well as on creating more through a fruitless war in Iraq. Road accidents cause the equivalent of "another 9/11" every nine days. Clearly, someone lacks a sense of proportion about what the real threat to American lives is.
A hundred billion dollars a year could be put to better use in providing quality public transport and reducing people's use of cars, thereby saving many thousands of lives. The Iraq war is _killing_ many thousands, for no discernable benefit (to put it mildly).
ReplyDeleteI think the problem is the potential long term threat of terrorism.
ReplyDeleteI propose it is total, in as far as it could end human life one day (even though it is not that dangerous now) driving cars will never reachthat point.
Also it is to be feared in part because it is feared (as contadictory as that sounds). If someone droped a nuke in shanghai (or los angeles or whatever) - sure only 20 million might die, and sure that might be less than the amount of people who die of other causes in china that year, but your big problem is not that 20 million would die as a direct result of the blast - it is instead that China would go insane.
it is therefore in everyone's interests that the USA or china or anyone else is fairly careful about their vulnerability to terrorism.
There is some logic to their counterpoints I/S...
ReplyDeleteWhat if your financial logic were used on say, homicide victims? I'm sure police resources must enter into the millions for the seriously big murder investigations, that's a whole lotta cash for just one dead person. Not to mention all the trial stuff.
What if we stopped investigating homicide and put that money into child health or indeed road safety? How many more lives could be saved if we just shrugged off getting murderers? But then there wouldn't be justice for those people, and justice isn't something you budget in, it's something you do because it is right to do it.
Of course, this does not justify the Iraq war, not at all... But it does point out that those who organised the WTC bombings should be brought to justice, just as any murderer should, even at great financial cost.
State and individual terrorism are practically identical from the recipiants point of view. Afterall at one stage osama and afganistan were intimatly intertwined and now they are not. But in time surely groups of individuals will be able to do what states can do now even if they cannot at this instant.
ReplyDelete> The damage cars do to the environment
Well I was not taking that into consideration specifically - but if we determine that oil is that much of a danger of course you would need to take whatever actions nessercary to prevent oil being burnt anywhere on earth. these sort of actions would be quite different in their nature to those required to reduce road deaths.
> If terrorism is to be feared because it is feared, then surely the solution is to reduce the fear rather than to fan it?
There always multiple ways to solve a problem. you could convince the terrorists to stop bombing the americans in iraq or you could convince the americans to leave and the government of iraq to capitulate - either would partly solve the problem and we can make our choices on which we think is more practical or whatever.
The queston here is can you convince China to not care (or show fantastic restraint) if they get nuked? I dont think I can - but if you can I am VERY impressed. The easier goal might be to concentrate on just not letting them get nuked.