Thursday, August 17, 2006



Straight from the horse's mouth

President Bush, speaking to a campaign rally in Pennsylvania yesterday:

"[L]eaving before we complete our mission would create a terrorist state in the heart of the Middle East, a country with huge oil reserves that the terrorist network would be willing to use to extract economic pain from those of us who believe in freedom.

(Emphasis added)

There you have it, straight from the horse's mouth: it really is about oil. Americans have to die, and Iraqi civilians be killed, to ensure that Iraq's oil continues to flow to the right people at the right price, and to prevent anyone (such as the Iraqi government) from hiking that price or threatening to cut off supplies to "those who believe in freedom".

I am so glad that we are no longer involved in this immoral war.

8 comments:

you've finally convinced him!

but more seriously, he really is too dim to be a president....

Posted by Genius : 8/17/2006 08:05:00 PM

"Immoral war"? "Business as usual" I would have called it, or "Western Imperlialism."

Posted by Anthony : 8/17/2006 08:14:00 PM

"It really is about oil.

Bush mentions oil (perfectly legitimately) once. He discusses many other rationales including terrorism, spreading liberty, long-term peace, even (rather romantically) Iraq becoming like Japan, all *at relative length*. They, however, are just sloughed off in favor of the cherrypicked nugget.

Ignoring negative instances, reporting the odd (dubious!) positive instance as establishing something very general..... Is this astrology? So many fallacies, so little time. Caveat lector.

Posted by Anonymous : 8/18/2006 03:18:00 AM

"He discusses many other rationales including terrorism, spreading liberty, long-term peace, even (rather romantically) Iraq becoming like Japan, all *at relative length*."

So why on earth not cherry-pick the nugget of oil truth? There's no point being distracted by idiotic burblings like 'spreading liberty' no matter how much speach-time he gives them.
I pity anyone who has to trawl the feces of his public utterings in search of the odd nugget..

Posted by Huskynut : 8/18/2006 09:21:00 AM

"So why on earth not cherry-pick the nugget of oil truth? There's no point being distracted by idiotic burblings"

Because, you fucking moron, you're begging the question if you do that.... you're supposed to arguing for the claim that "it's all about oil" not merely wielding your prior belief that it is, i.e., to dismiss any contrary evidence as chaff/noise etc..and home on the one thing that's broadly consistent with your (almost certainly ridiculous) prior belief.

Pitiful.

Posted by Anonymous : 8/18/2006 03:14:00 PM

heh heh. personal abuse.. is that you Adrien(ne) my love..?

To recap the last couple of years for you.. Shrub, oops sorry, "The Leader of the Free World" is a moron. Or simpleton, whatever term you like. Even the GoP have finally twigged to that. So you're unlikely to reach a state of enlightenment from anything he says.
But his policy and speeches are largely directed by the Neocons, led by Dick Cheney (even if he thinks he thought of it himself). The Neocons are avowed followers of the philosphy of Leo Strauss. Whose belief is that it's fine to mislead anybody about anything, if it's in service of doing a Good Thing. Hence the garbage they continue to talk about Iraq being linked to 9/11 or containing WMDs.
Therefore any resemblence to reality within the contents of a Bush speech is either coincidental, or snuck in there when everyone's back was turned. Which is, I assume, how the oil remark got in there.

Posted by Huskynut : 8/18/2006 06:40:00 PM

I wouldn't worry about Bush (for whom I hold no particular brief) if I were you H., worry instead about your inability to reason as opposed to just beat your chest (like an ape).

Posted by Anonymous : 8/19/2006 02:16:00 AM

Oh Shrub is not dim, just managed. Lets try the latest "Muslims blowing up planes with liquid explosives boogabooga"..turns out:

1. A lot of these guys arrested had no passports.

2. Had no plane tickets.

3. Had no show of actually making the TATP bombs as claimed.

Posted by Logix : 8/19/2006 06:05:00 PM