Thursday, July 27, 2006

Things to go to in Wellington

The Wellington Palestine Group is holding a public meeting on Monday to discss Israel's bombing of Gaza and Lebanon:

When: Monday, 31st July, 19:30 - 20:30
Where: Crossways Community Centre , Mt Victoria

They are also holding a protest next Friday (August 4th), starting from the Cenotaph on Lambton Quay at 12:30. If you're in Wellington, and angry about what is going on in the Middle East, then this is a good opportunity to show it.


Condi: We can't stop the fighting; Lebanon is full of Shiites!
Bush: But the Shiites are our friends ... in Iraq!

Posted by Anonymous : 7/27/2006 09:03:00 PM

The Wellington Palestine Group is wasting its time.

The United States blocked on Wednesday the U.N. Security Council from issuing a statement that would have condemned Israel's bombing of a UN post on the Lebanon border that killed four military observers.

Posted by Anonymous : 7/27/2006 09:07:00 PM

Nine IDF soldiers died Wednesday and 27 others were injured. The IDF believes Hezbollah lost 15 of its fighters Wednesday...

This war is going to go on a very long time at this rate as both sides. The poor civilians stuck between two armed factions, both guilty of war crimes.

Posted by Anonymous : 7/27/2006 09:18:00 PM

The view of perhaps the most respected member of the Lebanon parliament on what this is all about:

"The Israeli plan ... is in fact that we become divided, leading to the disappearance of the state of Lebanon," Ghassan Tueni, the owner of an-Nahar newspaper wrote in a front-page editorial.

Posted by Anonymous : 7/27/2006 09:47:00 PM

But don't mention Iran hanging gays. The Jews are the enemey.

Posted by Anonymous : 7/27/2006 10:33:00 PM

Warmongers are the enemy. Their religion is irrelevant.

Posted by Anonymous : 7/27/2006 10:45:00 PM

Neil, supporting the rights of innocent Arabs (and innocent Israelis) is not the same as defending the atrocities of their leaders.

Posted by Anonymous : 7/28/2006 11:00:00 AM

Just a suggestion for genuine peace supporters: if people show up chanting "Up up Hezbollah, Burn down Israel" like they did at the Queen Street march last Saturday, you ought to distance yourselves from them. Israel might deserve criticism for its actions, but to allow Hezbollah supporters to appear to be on your side would be like Women's Refuge accepting help from the American Men Boy Love Association.

Posted by Anonymous : 7/28/2006 01:34:00 PM

If anyone tries to paint Hizbollah or Hamas as the defenders of the underdog, they'll find out what I think.

Posted by Anonymous : 7/28/2006 04:32:00 PM

George (and others): Hizbolla, Hamas, the PLO, and others like them are the defenders of the innocents in their countries, their occaisional criminal actions notwithstanding. They have to be when no one else is willing in the slightest, and the UN fails them again and again.

Fuck Israel: a militant apartied state destroying its neighbour over nothing. Bravo to Hizbolla for sending a taste of it back to the otherwise ignorant Isrealis. BRAVO for killing the invading soldiers.

So, tell me what you think, big man.

Posted by tussock : 7/28/2006 11:28:00 PM

[switches on sarcasm]
I wonder if the nazi's were the rightious defenders of humanity against the tide of anarchy and communism, (er... and capitalism... and jooossss) when no one else would.
And "bravo" to them for killing any allied or communist soldiers (or civillians or whatever) who steped outside of their own countries.

Posted by Genius : 7/29/2006 10:31:00 AM

What do I think? First a disclaimer - I'll join you in saying 'fuck Israel' as loudly as anyone - it has consistently undermined any right it might have had to exist with the constant stream of war crimes and injustices, supported by the domestic population.

That said, Hizbollah and Hamas are violently anti-gay, anti-women, authoritarian and radically opposed to those who don't fit their narrow version of Islam.

Raining down shells on civilians is a disgusting war crime - even more so when the shells are filled with ball bearings designed to cause maximum suffering. That Israel uses US manufactured cluster bombs doesn't make such an action any less despicable.

That Hamas stand up for the Palestinians is unquestionable (Hizbollah and Lebanon is less evidently so). That they deserve support is to ignore their ugly acts, and end up in a state of moral blindness.

I'm fucking disgusted with both sides.

Israeli Cluster Munitions Hit Civilians in Lebanon

Israel/Lebanon: Israel Responsible for Qana Attack

Lebanon: Hezbollah Rocket Attacks on Haifa Designed to Kill Civilians

Posted by Anonymous : 7/31/2006 09:38:00 PM

Hizbolla, Hamas, the PLO, and others like them they are killers of their own innocent and isreal's, why? maybe because they fired missiles 1st into highly populated areas in israel from highly populated areas in Lebanon designed to kill israeli civilians not soldiers, they are the ones who want a war and will get 1 if they continue. they know full well israel will fire exactly back to the spot where they fired from resulting in innocents being killed for the above reasons,but its a huge atrocitie as i have read in your main page when israel aim for these fucks and get civilians in the cross fire.hizbolla's aim is to get rid of Israel but instead they will be defeated. Whether you like it or not, you can not make peace with ones who disturb it.

Posted by Anonymous : 8/07/2006 09:18:00 PM