Wednesday, March 14, 2007

Military "values"

General Peter Pace, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, thinks homosexuality is immoral and therefore gays shouldn't be allowed to serve "openly". Killing people, OTOH, is just fine and dandy. Just another example of military "values" in action...

(Hat tip: Liberal Catnip)


That "gays in the military" thing is so stupid.

Look at all the great soldiers who were gay. Without bothering to research I can think of:
- Lawrence of Arabia - as christmas
- Montgomery - probably

There might be a case for not allowing straights in the military - since if General Pace and his cohorts are anything to go by, they are crap at the job.

Posted by Rich : 3/14/2007 09:42:00 AM

I don't really know what this post is trying to say.

The reasoning seems to be:
1) killing people is against our most fundamental values.
2) People in the military believe in killing people (What else do you expect? They are obviously in the wrong job if they don't, at least under some circumstances). 3) Therefore, anybody in the military who professes to have any values at all is a hypocrite.

That's OK I guess if you are a committed pacifist who doesn't believe that the military has a right to exist for any purpose at all, including UN peacekeeping. But it's nonsense in the real world, where it's impossible to deter aggressors without being prepared to kill them.

Posted by Anonymous : 3/14/2007 11:04:00 AM

Of course killing people is fine and dandy, THAT'S WHAT ARMIES DO.

It's the armies that can't/won't you need to worry about; they're the ones wasting your money.

As for social agendas, they're irrelevant in the military arena (if you actually think about it), because armies are there to kill and destroy.


Posted by Anonymous : 3/14/2007 01:02:00 PM

Hey, let's not forget the greats out of antiquity...

Alexander the (literaly) Great and Archillies. Not to mention Julius Cesear.

Posted by Muerk : 3/14/2007 01:23:00 PM

On the other hand, Republicans these days see nothing wrong with embracing US Marine corporals, even when they have a glorious past in gay porno movie making.
Corporal Sanchez posed cutely with Ann Coulter with the blogosphere instinctively asking which one had the 11-inch cock. Priceless.
The homophobe general is just a dick.

Posted by Hans Versluys : 3/14/2007 02:11:00 PM

*yawn* I think you've missed the point, I/S. General Pace needs to be reminded that the Armed Forces of the United States are ultimately subject to civilian command and if the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy is repealed, then he can either STFU and implement it or resign.

Not really that difficult.

Posted by Craig Ranapia : 3/14/2007 03:16:00 PM

I think Bill Hicks says it well:

"Anybody dumb enough to want to be in the military should be allowed in. End of f$#king story."

Really. Why is this even an issue?


Posted by Anonymous : 3/14/2007 05:38:00 PM

BTW, Uroskin, Senator Mark Warner - the ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee - managed to serve Gen. Pace an extra tall fuckupachino while the allegedly gay-friendly front-runners for the Democratic presidential nomination, Senators Clinton and Obama, have ducked and covered.

Funny old world, isn't it?

Posted by Craig Ranapia : 3/16/2007 02:10:00 PM