Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Sedition: unanimous

The Crimes (Repeal of Seditious Offences) Amendment Bill passed its first reading unanimously tonight and has been sent to select committee. However, not all parties were wholehearted in their support. New Zealand First explicitly hedged its bets, citing fears of seditious Muslims (who seem to have replaced "asians" as the demons d'jour among the old and racist). Meanwhile, National seems to have changed its mind over the weekend, with Simon Power also hedging where Chris Finlayson and (IIRC) Richard Worth had previously offered wholehearted support. The bill will still pass anyway - there's no question that it has the numbers - but it depressing to see parties sacrificing a fundamental freedom of speech issue to preserve their ability to pander to racists and bigots.

Meanwhile, thanks to Hone Harawira, I seem to have been Hansarded for the first time. Score!


And possibly (?) a first explicit hansarding of a blogger. Congrats I/S, your persistence and work is definitely appreciated!

Posted by Anonymous : 6/19/2007 06:50:00 PM

Can you give us a link so that we can bask in your glory :)

Posted by Muerk : 6/19/2007 07:22:00 PM

The only down-side is that these gutless ninnies in parliament are too spineless to remove the other outdated thought-crime, section 123, from the lawbooks. Blasphemous Libel is an anachronism. Even more starkly ironic when you consider that you will, once this Bill passes into law, utter the most seditious statements about "king and country" but mutter something about a Goblin King or Pink Fairy or whatever mythical being you call God and you're still liable for up to a year in pokey for libelling this mythical person(s). Utter craziness. This Bill represented an opportunity to take a stand against woefully outdated, anti-democratic laws. But because MPs fear the Fairy Worshippers in their electorates...they defer. It's a crying shame. But I am happy the other thought-crimes got removed.

Posted by Anonymous : 6/19/2007 09:47:00 PM

George; Actually, Russell Brown has been mentioned in Parliament, and I'm fairly certain DPF has (oh, and CYFSWatch, of course). So I'm nowhere near the first. But my place in posterity is assured.

Muerk: Unfortunately, it takes them about a week to get Hansard online. Maybe then.

Posted by Idiot/Savant : 6/19/2007 10:21:00 PM

Yes well done.

Heh I've had the PM attack me by name, but that was in my role as a staffer, not a blogger :-)

I'm actually going to use NRT and the sedition issue as an example in a presentation I am giving in Australia in August on whether blogs have any bite.

Posted by David Farrar : 6/20/2007 08:33:00 AM

It might be an appropriate time for a (virtual) public lecture or panel discussion on the role of bloggers in public law...

I've been mulling this idea over for a while - I'm sure the NZ Centre for Public Law would be willing to host...


Posted by Dean Knight : 6/20/2007 09:42:00 AM


I'm surprised - Jenny Shipley attacked you? What about?

Phil Lyth

Posted by Anonymous : 6/20/2007 09:47:00 AM

In closing Madam Speaker, we'd like to honour those who have helped get this Repeal Bill to the table.


- Idiot Savant for drafting a Bill and badgering us all to sponsor it;


Posted by Lyndon : 6/20/2007 11:44:00 AM

This comment has been removed by the author. Posted by Russell Brown : 6/20/2007 11:48:00 AM

Nice one!

Next thing to watch for: when an MP rolls out your rhetoric without citing you ...

Posted by Russell Brown : 6/20/2007 11:50:00 AM

So when is Idiot Savant running for Member of Parliament?

Posted by Muerk : 6/20/2007 12:46:00 PM

Muerk: Oh god no - I'd have to talk to people. Not to mention join a political party, which is the sort of thing I've avoided.

Posted by Idiot/Savant : 6/20/2007 01:09:00 PM

Hmm, when I search http://theyworkforyou.co.nz/ I get no results for Savant but 3 pages for Idiot. Shurley shome mishtake?

Posted by Anonymous : 6/20/2007 02:41:00 PM

Oh and WRT David's biting blogs reference can I propose a headline for his slide:

"Blog Bites Man"

Posted by Anonymous : 6/20/2007 02:43:00 PM

Anon: as I mentioned above, it takes about a week for Hansard to go online. TheyWorkForYou won't have it until then.

Posted by Idiot/Savant : 6/20/2007 03:56:00 PM

I/S - oh, is see. TWFY has Questions up from yesterday but debates from last week.


Stunning effort that site and shame on Hansard for not releasing meta data in their HTML.

I was sort of joking anyway. The use of the term "idiot" seems quite prevalent :-)

Posted by Anonymous : 6/20/2007 05:33:00 PM

Well Done I/S!!
And all the rest who got in behind.
Yes it looks like it will have the legs to pass, despite the quivering knees of a couple of wimps.


Posted by Anonymous : 6/20/2007 08:53:00 PM

Nice job I/S. There must have surely been a slight laugh in the house when Idiot/Savant was named. Some most have thought: say what!

Posted by Gooner : 6/20/2007 10:20:00 PM