Thursday, October 12, 2006

Manukau prostitution: the vote

Tim Barnett's office was kind enough to email me scans of the tally sheets for the vote on the Manukau City Council (Control of Street Prostitution) Bill, so here are the details:


  • Jim Anderton (Progressive Coalition, Wigram)
  • Chris Auchinvole (National, List)
  • David Bennett (National, Hamilton East)
  • Jackie Blue (National, List)
  • Chester Borrows (National, Whanganui)
  • Peter Brown (New Zealand First, List)
  • Gerry Brownlee (National, Ilam)
  • David Carter (National, List)
  • John Carter (National, Northland)
  • Bob Clarkson (National, Tauranga)
  • Johnathan Coleman (National, Northcote)
  • Judith Collins (National, Clevedon)
  • Gordon Copeland (United Future, List)
  • Jacqui Dean (National, Otago)
  • Brian Donnelly (New Zealand First, List)
  • Peter Dunne (United Future, Ohariu-Belmont)
  • Bill English (National, Clutha-Southland)
  • Taito Phillip Field (Labour, Mangere)
  • Craig Foss (National, Tukituki)
  • Sandra Goudie (National, Coromandel)
  • Tim Groser (National, List)
  • Nathan Guy (National, List)
  • George Hawkins (Labour, Manurewa)
  • Phillip Heatley (National, Whangarei)
  • Paul Hutchison (National, Port Waikato)
  • John Key (National, Helensville)
  • Colin King (National, kaikoura)
  • Wayne Mapp (National, North Shore)
  • Ron Mark (New Zealand First, List)
  • Pita Paraone (New Zealand First, List)
  • Allan Peachey (National, Tamaki)
  • Winston Peters (New Zealand First, List)
  • Ross Robertson (Labour, Manukau East)
  • Eric Roy (National, Invercargill)
  • Tony Ryall (National, Bay of Plenty)
  • Nick Smith (National, Nelson)
  • Barbara Stewart (New Zealand First, List)
  • Paul Swain (Labour, Rimutaka)
  • Lindsay Tisch (National, Piako)
  • Anne Tolley (National, East Coast)
  • Chris Tremain (National, Napier)
  • Judy Turner (United Future, List)
  • Nicky Wagner (National, List)
  • Kate Wilkinson (National, List)
  • Maurice Williamson (National, Pakuranga)
  • Doug Woolerton (New Zealand First, List)


  • Rick Barker (Labour, List)
  • Tim Barnett (Labour, Christchurch Central)
  • Paula Bennett (National, List)
  • David Benson-Pope (Labour, Dunedin South)
  • Georgina Beyer (Labour, List)
  • Mark Blumsky (National, List)
  • Sue Bradford (Green, List)
  • Don Brash (National, List)
  • Mark Burton (Labour, Taupo)
  • Chris Carter (Labour, Te Atatu)
  • Steve Chadwick (Labour, Rotorua)
  • Charles Chauvel (Labour, List)
  • Ashraf Choudhary (Labour, List)
  • Helen Clark (Labour, Mt Albert)
  • Brian Connell (National, Rakaia)
  • Clayton Cosgrove (Labour, Waimakariri)
  • Michael Cullen (Labour, List)
  • David Cunliffe (Labour, New Lynn)
  • Lianne Dalziel (Labour, Christchurch East)
  • Harry Duynhoven (Labour, New Plymouth)
  • Ruth Dyson (Labour, Banks Peninsula)
  • Russell Fairbrother (Labour, List)
  • Darien Fenton (Labour, List)
  • Christopher Finlayson (National, List)
  • Jeanette Fitzsimons (Green, List)
  • Te Ururoa Flavell (Maori Party, Waiariki)
  • Martin Gallagher (Labour, Hamilton West)
  • Phil Goff (Labour, Mt Roskill)
  • Jo Goodhew (National, Aoraki)
  • Mark Gosche (Labour, Maungakiekie)
  • Hone Harawira (Maori Party, Te Tai Tokerau)
  • Ann Hartley (Labour, List)
  • John Hayes (National, Wairarapa)
  • Tau Henare (National, List)
  • Dave Hereora (Labour, List)
  • Rodney Hide (ACT, Epsom)
  • Marian Hobbs (Labour, Wellington Central)
  • Pete Hodgson (Labour, Dunedein North)
  • Parekura Horomia (Labour, Ikaroa-Rawhiti)
  • Darren Hughes (Labour, Otaki)
  • Shane Jones (Labour, List)
  • Sue Kedgley (Green, List)
  • Annette King (Labour, Rongotai)
  • Winnie Laban (Labour, Mana)
  • Keith Locke (Green, List)
  • Moana Mackey (Labour, List)
  • Steve Maharey (Labour, Palmerston North)
  • Nanaia Mahuta (Labour, Tainui)
  • Trevor Mallard (Labour, Hutt South)
  • Murray McCully (National, East Coast Bays)
  • Sue Moroney (Labour, List)
  • Damien O'Connor (Labour, West Coast-Tasman)
  • Mahara Okeroa (Labour, Te Tai Tonga)
  • David Parker (Labour, List)
  • Jill Pettis (Labour, List)
  • Lynne Pillay (Labour, Waitakere)
  • Simon Power (National, Rangitikei)
  • Katherine Rich (National, List)
  • Mita Ririnui (Labour, List)
  • Heather Roy (ACT, List)
  • Dover Samuels (Labour, List)
  • Pita Sharples (Maori Party, Tamaki-Makaurau)
  • Clem Simich (National, List)
  • Lockwood Smith (National, Rodney)
  • Nandor Tanczos (Green, List)
  • Georgina te Heuheu (National, List)
  • Judith Tizard (Labour, Auckland Central)
  • Metiria Turei (Green, List)
  • Tariana Turia (Maori Party, Te Tai Hauauru)
  • Margaret Wilson (Labour, List)
  • Pansy Wong (National, List)
  • Richard Worth (National, List)
  • Dianne Yates (Labour, List)

No vote is recorded for Shane Ardern or Maryan Street.

The results can also be viewed at the CommoNZ archive of conscience votes here (which allows them to be searched and compared with votes on previous bills).

So, Labour's usual suspects (Hawkins, Field, Swain and Robertson) supported it, while the rest opposed. Meanwhile, National turned out to have rather more liberals than expected (and strangely, Don Brash seems to have recovered his conscience, while John Key is now voting with the Brethren). The big surprises are that Jim Anderton supported it (showing that on social issues, the "progressives" aren't), while ACT acted like an actual liberal party for once.

And as a final note, I am constantly surprised at how helpful our MPs and Parliamentary staff are if you ask them nicely, and I wouldn't be able to do this sort of work without them.


Anderton's vote isn't that surprising really, he is very very socially conservative at heart. There was a discussion within the Alliance years back about conscience votes which was specifically driven by his need to not be forced by party policy to vote against his (still very) Catholic beliefs.

Posted by Span : 10/12/2006 09:33:00 AM

I was there for the last part of the debate (waiting for a members bill that didn't get debated due to this one taking so freaking long). Very few MPs actually showed up, they mostly cast proxy votes. In general, a poor quality debate. Good to hear it failed.

Posted by Anonymous : 10/12/2006 09:43:00 AM

there's nothing "progressive" about prostitution, unless like Tammy Bruce notes social values change to the extent where you'd be happy with your own child daughter wanting to be one when she grows up

for the record as a strong supporter of choice (and the only real party in Parliament which allows this is ACT) and disagree with her and would have no problem with legalising other social taboos such as paedophilia and beastiality while personally morally opposing them

Posted by Rebel Heart : 10/12/2006 01:34:00 PM

Jesus: there is, however, a great deal that is progressive about not throwing prostitutes in jail, fining them, or victimising them through the law (thus allowing prostitutes to be victimised outside the law as well). And I would have expected the so-called "progressive" party to acknowledge this.

Posted by Idiot/Savant : 10/12/2006 01:45:00 PM

I would be wary of describing any of the Nats who voted No as liberal. There are the usual suspects (Rich, Simich, Brash, etc.), but a few might not have liked the idea that Prostitution would be legal in Mount Albert and illegal in Manukau. It's a silly thing to do, they should reform the whole law, not make random exceptions to it. Brian Connell is strongly opposed to prostitution, but probably voted No for that reason.

Posted by Anonymous : 10/12/2006 02:24:00 PM

It was good to see all 5 Manukau MPs working together to vote in favour of the Bill. The other 73 MPS who voted against it are totally out of touch.
The Bill was a pragmatic approach to solving some of the many issues in Manukau. The argument that the Bill was inconsistent with the PRA 2003 was not relevant. There are Acts which already have inconsistent parts in them. The Sale of Liquor Act 1989 is a classic example in which Licensed Liquor Outlets were allowed to setup in all areas of NZ. However 5 areas (Grey Lynn, Roskill, Wellington East, Eden, Tawa) were given total Liquor Licensing Bans, which is totally inconsistent with the Act.
Every person I have spoken to supported the Bill. Even those with "Liberal" views seemed to change their minds after a little discussion. Its seems people are only liberal towards this as long as it does not effect them and also seem quite surprised by some or all of the following.
-That the location By-Law rule in the PRA 2003 has been defeated in court in several Cities.
-That large Brothels in these Cities can now setup beside your corner dairy, schools, churches, almost in residential etc.
-That home based Boutique brothels (3 or less employees) can now setup in any street.
-That recent studies has shown large increases in prostitution.
-My own and other volunteers observation supported the view that there are increasing numbers of children prostituting themselves in Manukau.
Also it was interesting to ask whether they have used the services of a prostitute, would now use the services of a prostitute, would mind if their parent, grandparent or child was a prostitute. It seems when faced with additional information and some uncomfortable questions most people would change their mind.

Posted by Anonymous : 10/13/2006 03:06:00 PM

Yeah somebody think of the fucking case you hadn't been keeping up with current events Toa, child prostitution is still illegal in New Zealand.

Posted by Michael : 10/14/2006 12:11:00 AM