Monday, October 02, 2006



Brash, Maori and "choice"

The Herald has finally published the opinion piece which led to Don Brash being called "evil". But rather than taking issue with his comments about how there are "few if any people in New Zealand who have only Maori ancestors" (which shows not only a failure to distinguish between race and ethnicity, but a a basic failure to grasp who the parties to the Treaty actually were), I'd like to make a few points about his other highly contentious claim: that the current position of Maori is a matter of "choice":

But it is quite wrong to argue that, because Maori are over-represented in negative social statistics, the “Crown”, or the government on behalf of all New Zealanders, has somehow failed to discharge its obligations under the Treaty. If Maori New Zealanders die more frequently from lung cancer than non-Maori do, for example, it is almost certainly because Maori New Zealanders choose to smoke more heavily than other New Zealanders do, not a result of some failing by the Crown.

"Dying more frequently of lung cancer" is a cheap example, because it has seemingly direct causation which can be directly blamed on the individuals concerned. Or does it? Quality of healthcare is also a factor, and there's some evidence that Maori receive poorer healthcare than Pakeha for the same disease, leading to differential survival rates - notably for cancer and heart disease. So its not as black and white and not his problem as Dr Brash would like to pretend. But more generally, Brash's implication is that just as Maori "choose" to die of lung cancer by smoking, they have also "chosen" to be over-represented in negative social statistics such as poverty, unemployment, educational attainment, and illiteracy. Decades of dispossession, marginalisation, discrimination and denial of opportunity are masked beneath that facile claim that the current state of Maori is a "choice". But it saves Dr Brash from having to wonder whether the government has lived up to its obligations (whether under the Treaty or as a decent government), and what it can or should do about it.

15 comments:

Will there ever be a generation of new born Maori New Zealanders who will finaly say we are now 100% compensated for past grievances plus have equal standing in the community with the "other" 75%?

I have a feeling that the longer it goes on the later that generation will arrive.

I cant speak for healthcare but do know that Maori and Pacific Islanders get positive discrimination at Unitechs.

I had to pay $3000 per term for my kids but if I had ticked the "are you of Moari or Pacific Island Decent" I would have got the same classes for free.

Whenever filling in official foms I always make my tribe Ngati Tauiwi.

Gets em going that does.

Posted by Anonymous : 10/02/2006 12:49:00 PM

Gerrit: Will there ever be a generation of new born Maori New Zealanders who will finaly say we are now 100% compensated for past grievances plus have equal standing in the community with the "other" 75%?

That depends entirely on how good a job we make of it now. Currently, iwi are displaying tremendous goodwill in accepting a tiny fraction of what was stolen from them; they're doing this because like us, they also want reconciliation. But its entirely possible that a future generation will question their judgement on accepting such a bad deal, and come back for what's theirs - and the only way we have of stopping that is goodwill. And Don Brash - or the government's raupatu of the foreshore and seabed - isnn't exactly helping on that front.

Posted by Idiot/Savant : 10/02/2006 01:06:00 PM

Sounds like it will be fore-ever because what you are saying is that settlelemnts today are not worth the paper they are written on.

Almost like obtaining goods by false pretences.

Ad infinitum this will last or until there are no more tax payers left.

By then Maori will have all their land back and only their decendens to inhabit New Zealand.

Must be their long term strategy.

Posted by Anonymous : 10/02/2006 02:00:00 PM

There's some evidence that Maori receive poorer healthcare than Pakeha for the same disease, leading to differential survival rates

Who are these doctors and nurses who give Maori cheaper drugs, or spend less time operating, or whatever it is that they do? If that sort of thing were going on, surely there would be better evidence for it than ambiguous statistics?

Posted by Anonymous : 10/02/2006 02:14:00 PM

"Almost like obtaining goods by false pretences."

Do you have a sense of irony gerrit? Try reading the history of the Treaty and then think again about which party obtained goods by false pretences...

Posted by Psycho Milt : 10/02/2006 02:40:00 PM

gerrit, if you want to retire here and enjoy a first world quality of life, we'd better find a way to encourage more Maori and Pacific Island Peoples into tertiary education and improve their labour market participation (to be entirely rationalist about it). It's doesn't need to be a race/ethnicity issue, it can simply be good forward planning.

I also agree with I/S, the progress made since the '70s is huge. 30 years to come as far as we have? I don't mind if it's another 30 years.

Posted by backin15 : 10/02/2006 02:44:00 PM

Psycho,

No the irony is not lost on me.

I guess in New Zealand we will continue to keep paying out for all the past injustices until they are all neatly in line and everyone is satisfied.

Welcome to the future.

Have said numerous times that the way forward is through education and I didn't mind paying for my kids education. Just ironic that for all the "free" (ot tax payer funded) education happening for Maori and Pacific Islanders is taking a while to come in statisctics for better health, better job, etc.

What I/S said that even in 30 years there will be still an abilty to claim for past grievances if the generation born 30 years from now sees settlements made in the last 60 years as unacceptable.

Ad infinitum. If that is how you want it great. I think it will hold Maori back.

Posted by Anonymous : 10/02/2006 03:22:00 PM

This short article may help clarify why more Maori die from lung cancer than non-Maori. Even if Brash read it, somehow I don't believe it would alter his thinking.
http://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/118-1213/1410/

Posted by Anonymous : 10/02/2006 05:49:00 PM

Very interesting paper, aladin. On a more hopeful note, the last issue of Tobacco Facts reported a decline in smoking among young people in 2003 and 2004, including Maori and Pacific youth.

http://www.moh.govt.nz/moh.nsf/0/8BDA21625203A2DDCC25708B00783A1F/$File/tobaccofacts2005.doc

Gerrit: Maori progress would have been faster but for the radical changes wrought by the New Right under Roger Douglas and Ruth Richardson et al, policies which Brash wants to continue, regardless of clear evidence of their negative effect on Maori. For example, Maori unemployment soared from around 11% in 1986 to 25% in 1992. The level has now declined to about 9%, but the damaging effect of mass unemployment on family structure and health over that period will be long-lasting for the people most affected. The growth of tertiary participation among young Maori is an encouraging sign that things will be better in the future.

Posted by Anonymous : 10/02/2006 09:17:00 PM

Maori probably are slightly more likely to get addicted to smoking than europeans or asians who have been exposed to large quantities of adictive substances for longer.

there is probably also an effect which multiplies the impact on a poor community - so that a rich person who belongs to a generally poor culture still has poor culture health habits while a poor person belonging to a rich culture might have rich health habits - thereby confusing analysis.

Amongst other things..

Posted by Genius : 10/02/2006 10:14:00 PM

Anon,

Blame everything including structural reforms but never ever take responsibility?

That will take a proud race into oblivion.

Posted by Anonymous : 10/03/2006 08:56:00 AM

Libertyscott:

Immigrants generally fare better in new lands - Maori overseas are just as diligent and prosperous as foreigners here.

There is ample evidence as to why colonisiation sucks for indigenous peoples. Most colonised peoples - Australian Aborigine, North and South American Indians, even Tibet - all record crappy social indicators in health, housing, education, justice and economically.

Maori before colonisation were not poor or impoverished. We did not smoke, grow dac, or laze about watching Police Ten7. We were a vigorously healthy bunch with really good teeth.

Aotearoa was the last place on Earth to be colonised. We may also be the first indigneous nation on Earth to properly de-colonise. Now that is Maori taking responsbility for itself.

I hope Brash does get in next election (doing the cannibal dance).

Posted by Anonymous : 10/03/2006 12:23:00 PM

sin-cerity makes a vital point; on average migrants have better skills than the domestic workforce, indigenous or non-indigenous - that's certainly the case in Australia and I assume it is also true in NZ.

libertyscott, I you're overstating somewhat your claim to say Maori use social disadvantage as an excuse - clearly Maori education and training, labour market participation and health indicators are improving; what evidence do you have to back up your (strawman) argument?

Posted by backin15 : 10/03/2006 01:15:00 PM

if you dont smoke you wont die from smoking related illnesses...its common fucking sense. Of course its the individuals fault. I choose not to smoke cigarettes because they will do more harm than good. Common fucking sense

Posted by Anonymous : 10/03/2006 06:31:00 PM

" if you dont smoke you wont die from smoking related illnesses"

That's simply not true - unless you're one of the few who still deny the deleterious effects of second-hand cigarette smoke.

Posted by Anonymous : 10/03/2006 09:01:00 PM