Saturday, July 30, 2005

And they didn't even have to bomb anyone...

All four suspects in the failed London bombings of last week are now in custody, following arrests in London and one in Italy. It's a good example of the proper response to terrorism: one centered on law-enforcement rather than military force, and which aims at arresting, charging, trying and hopefully convicting and imprisoning terrorists, rather than invading small countries and bombing indiscriminately.

The police have a wide range of options when it comes to criminal charges - acts prepatory to terrorism, various charges relating to the misuse of explosives or attempting to set off a bomb, and of course attempted murder. If convicted, these people face jail for a very long time.


I guess it is good for the moment that we dont over react since we can just about close our eyes and ignore the terrorist threat because they have so little power to harm us (they kill 50 out of a few hundred million every couple of years) we realy only give them false hope when we get upset about the harm they cause.

But if the threat was larger the court system is not really capable of dealing with major threats.

I am looking for a not guilty verdict based upon the "reasonable doubt" theory that all the evidence was planted by bush and sharon.
Followed by them blowing up somthing else.

I declare "geniusNZ's law"
"as a case becomes bigger the outcome tends towards not guilty"
(only slightly mitigated by actual evidence such as sexually abused children, blood at the scene, videotape of genocide and so forth).

Posted by Anonymous : 7/30/2005 11:22:00 AM

Gosh, that comment added a lot to the debate. Or not.

Back in reality, this is seriously good news. Arrest, charge, fair trial. The way it should be.

Posted by Anonymous : 7/30/2005 12:24:00 PM


Ahh the hypocracy... Stunned by the detail and inciteful analysis of your comment, Or not.

You it would seem are a symptom of the problem that i was pointing to. that you assume that what you want to be true is self evident.

It would be better if people allowed themselves to be fully aware of where their theories fall down and in what situations one might be inclined to make exceptions.

Posted by Anonymous : 7/30/2005 01:52:00 PM

Genius: they're only going to be acquitted if the police have failed utterly to do their job. For all their faults, I have rather more faith in the British police than that.

Anon: yeah, that'd be a great way of "defending western values"...

Posted by Idiot/Savant : 7/30/2005 06:23:00 PM

> police have failed utterly to do their job

If you have a job lets say moving stuff around a factory and that fills your day (you are on a sallary). then you are told that you need to enter all that information into a computer as well and if that doesn't happen you are not doing your job. OK that takes another couple of hours a day - so you do it. then you are told that there are a whole lot of very large pieces of machinary coming in and again you must put them in their places (despite the fact you cant lift them) and again you are failing in your job if you dont achieve the outcome to a high standard - so you find a way. At this stage you max out your hours at work around 12 and start just not doing the job properly taking short cuts not putting things in the right places not doing certain jobs at all etc and all these result in problems downstream. People start to complain that you arent doing the job you were hired to do and you in turn get all grumpy at your employers and customers. eventually you cut your time back to 7 hrs by not really doing half your job and become entirely thick skinned about the whole thing.

Where does the problem lie? The peopl who expect too much? or the peopel who complicated the system? you? Or is this the way it should be?


Posted by Anonymous : 7/30/2005 08:49:00 PM

hmm, well the media is saying that the suspects arent cooperating, and under UK law they have to charge or release after 14 days.

Lets guess that rentajihadi knows this.

Do not count your chickens before they hatch, as we all know from Zaoui, security information cannot easily be used in a court.

The worst possible outcome is that these people get released on a technicality, it will be what they are hoping for as they use the system to their advantage (again).

Posted by gazzadelsud : 7/31/2005 07:34:00 PM